Are you going to SEF
in Lisbon?
As one of these Brits, I chose to go up to Lisbon from the
Algarve to fill in the forms and hand over my biometric data to SEF. I could
have waited to be emailed with the chance to have an appointment in the Algarve,
but instead quite fancied a trip to the capital and was also eager to get the
ball rolling on a process that has been stalling for the past nearly two years.
Basically, with the UK’s withdrawal from the EU, my good old residency was no longer valid, as this is a piece of paper that only citizens
from member states can have. SEF did
allow us all to go online and print off a piece of paper with a QR code that
was a temporary substitute for a new residency card, and while this was a legal
document, it turns out that nobody apart from the Brits seemed to have a clue
what this was – or that it was legal.
I can’t count how many people have told me about problems
they have had for the past nearly two years in living everyday life in Portugal
without a proper residency card - from not being able to access loans,
difficulties in registering to vote, and problems in taking driving tests –
nobody was happy to accept our pitiful little QR code. So when the email finally came through from
SEF to let me book an appointment, a trip to Lisbon seemed a small price to pay
to finally be able to move on from all of this.
Getting to the office
I usually drive to Lisbon but with petrol and tolls this is
not exactly economical, so we hopped on a bus from Lagoa, which cost €16 return,
and we booked online. Our bus was almost
full and about a third of those on board were all heading to SEF too. This bus had
stops in the Algarve in Lagos, Portimão, Lagoa, Silves, and Messines and then
went straight up to Lisbon stopping only in Almada and then on to Sete Rios station, next to the zoo.
As the weather was good we then chose to do the half hour's
walk to the SEF office, but we could have equally taken a bus or a Metro, as
the Parque station is just across the road from the office. An Uber from the bus station to SEF only cost
us €4 on the way back.
The walk was very simple and once you are on the main drag
you have a good few places along the way to stop for a bite to eat or a
drink. There is also an enormous El Corte Inglés department store on this road for those who fancy a shop before or
after.
The process
We arrived 20 minutes early for our appointment and were
asked by the security guard on the door to show him the email from SEF
regarding the appointment on our phone, he then led us into the reception area
and took us to the front of the queue where you pick up your ticket with your
number on it. This felt a little strange
to jump ahead of everyone else but this also appeared to happen for everyone
else who had a prior booked appointment.
At the desk, the lady, who spoke great English, gave us a form
to fill in and a ticket number. (A top
tip here is to make sure you bring a pen with you as there was no offer of
being given one!). The form asked us to
complete mother and father's full names, NIF, NISS, health number, Portuguese
phone number, and address – so make sure you have all of these with you.
We then waited about half an hour before being called into
a specific desk where I was met by a lovely lady who also spoke perfect English. Here you hand in your ticket, completed form, and your passport – the only actual piece of documentation you have to take
with you.
I was asked to confirm my place of birth and also my marital
status as she inserted all of the details on the completed form into the
computer.
Once this was done I was asked to stand in front of a machine
that took a photo of my face, then asked to provide my fingerprints and my
signature digitally.
I was finally told that I was to log back on to the SEF
portal after 48 hours to be able to receive the payment information and that once the payment was made then the card would be posted to the address I had provided.
The entire data collection process itself took around five
minutes.
Questions and doubts
While I was comfortable with the process, I did see that a
number of people were asking questions about logging into the system online and
also general issues about residency, these questions were all answered quickly
and professionally at the door by the security guard and then also while
providing the data.
So there we have it – one step closer to being able to be a resident in Portugal (again!).
For those who have their appointments scheduled for the Lisbon SEF office, full contact details are below (map):
Avenida António Augusto de Aguiar, 20
1069-119 LISBOA
Telefone: 213 585 500
Fax: 213 144 053
Horário de Atendimento ao Público: 8h30-19h00 (dias úteis)
E-Mail: dir.lisboa@sef.pt / info.DRLVTA@sef.pt
Originally from the UK, Daisy has been living and working in Portugal for more than 20 years. She has worked in PR, marketing and journalism, and has been the editor of The Portugal News since 2019. Jornalista 7920
in this article you say all you need is a passport that is not correct you also need your QR code piece of paper and the old certificate with the stars on also
By Alan from Algarve on 18 Nov 2022, 20:21
The certificate with the yellow stars must be the original, with the embossed stamp as they then make a mark on it to show it has been exchanged. A copy is not accepted.
By Michael from Algarve on 19 Nov 2022, 03:30
Congratulations on your success . But could you please state what is the procedure to be followed by those Britons who are incapacitated by illness or simply old age and thus unable to travel except by taxi, ambulane or hearse.
When renewing my permanent residence card for a third tem of ten years. I was informed by SEF Leiria that an official could come to my home if I paid the cost of travel . Does this also apply to the issue of the new biometric card ?
By Cavaleiro R. from Other on 19 Nov 2022, 04:08
Thank YOU Daisy for the helpful information and Alan also for the extra tip.
By Wesley from USA on 19 Nov 2022, 05:28
I imagine you only need NIF and SNS number and not an NISS if you don’t work in Portugal. ?
By JG from Algarve on 19 Nov 2022, 06:34
A useful article. A cautionary note however. I travelled up to Lisbon on Wednesday and arrived 11.30 for a noon appointment. The queue was long and I eventually got my form at 12.10. I wasn’t seen by the lady collecting the biometrics until 13.35. My train back having been booked for 14.10. The moral of my story, allow for delays when booking your transport to avoid rising stress levels!
By Dave W from Algarve on 19 Nov 2022, 12:36
Thank you for this information. I have an appointment in early December and have been wondering what documents I need to bring. Now I know. I have a Permanent Residence Certificate card that I was issued by SEF but needs to be replaced and the Permanent Resident Application Certificate with a QR code. I will be really glad when this is all over.
By Steven Andrews from Other on 19 Nov 2022, 14:30
I received an email from SEF and entered the web site. I was given the option of booking at Lisbon or Lagos. I live in Lagos. However, only the Lisbon option provided the option of booking dates. So I went to the Lagos council who told me to wait for another email from SEF at which time a booking system for Lagos should be available. This is what I am now doing and I hope it all works out. Brexit was a mistake...
By Robert Russell Monteith Paterson from Algarve on 21 Nov 2022, 11:46
GOOD afternoon yes I would like to concur with the article I live in Aicochete but dependent on Carris Metropolitana buses they only appear if they can find a driver many times they cannot .I in fact registered with SEF 6 Jan 2021 received an e-mail on 20 -10-22 to attend edificio J Campos Justicas the following day 22 at 18:00.got there at 17:15 as I have mobility problems the and looking for the end of the queue the security guy asked me what I was looking for and after allowiing 20 members of the queue enter took me in checked my details brought me into the room with somewhere to sit and to wait to be until I was called which I was at 17:30 all foolowed as your other correspondent related and I left at 17:50 back to Orient where a driver appeared with a bus for Alcochete in total the time door door 3h30m.In comparison the renewing my old residency card in SEF in Setubal even with a booked time between 2h 30m and 6h30m + 1h 10 min travelling from Alcochete to Setubal .However a word of caution I received notification to pay the 18€ on the 28 -10-22 but was only able to on the 29th and like the other correspondent was told I would receive the new Residency card in 2 days in fact it was received by registered mail on the 14.11.22 so 17 days later:so be prepared for a much longer delivery time than 2 DAYS.But after SEF´s deserved bad publicity after the case at Portla Airport they do deserve good publicity for the way this has been finally dealt with and as the other correspondent remarks we can hopefully be relaxed for the next 10 years Yours Andy Blackwell
By bernard(andy) blackwell from Lisbon on 21 Nov 2022, 15:13
I used the SEF office at Parque d’Nacois in Lisbon and found the process even easier than that described by the writer - only my UK passport was required, nothing else, and no half-hour wait. A very helpful lady at the door took me immediately to the desk where my photo and finger prints were taken by a friendly assistant, no ticket number required. Whole process took ten minutes. However, I have to say this was my second try; my first appointment at Avenida Antonio Augusto was a disaster - when I arrived I was told no appointment had been made and I was gurned away.
By Norman from Lisbon on 21 Nov 2022, 17:56